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    Tripvan
    tripvan
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    The Animal Jam Deception
    I am sure you know who I am talking about here.

    For all these years AJ has not changed much of his overall tactic. He used to always spew the line ‘The Answer to 1984 is 1776’, well let’s take a look at the archives of the Bill Cooper radio show. http://www.hourofthetime.com/wordpresstest/milton-william-bill-cooper-mp3-collection/part-5-episodes-1400-through-1926-complete-bill-cooper-mp3-collection/

    Now Cooper has been misled over the years too, but is supremely useful for this example. Between episode 1775 and 1777, Cooper brings up the issue of AJ using -fear- by lying about imminent war with Russia. Sound familiar? It is the same tactic that was employed with the radio serial war of the worlds and made a small subsection of Americans truly afraid about the changeover to the year 2000. So what happened when nothing happened? Well, to put it bluntly, nothing.

    The Truth, mostly
    AJ gets away with what he does in the alternative news scene by posting the truth. What his organization does is repost truthful statements that the majority of mainstream and alternative news sources have already claimed. This builds a sense of authority in the community, especially amongst the newer members who have only recently had their eyes opened.

    Once the hook is in, you start listening to him every day. What does this do to the average person? Well besides forcing them to listen to his advertising every day about vitamins and supplemental iodine, hormone increasing products, water purification, guns and ammo, and tangy t~~~-erine, he also puts them into a bubble of influence. Within this bubble, he is the oracle. Whenever something happens in the world, your task is to find out what he thinks about it. He is the oracle, and as there is only one truth, he is seen as the only one capable of dispensing it to the masses. Again, this is because perhaps 80% or 90% of what he says is truthful and are things you do not hear in such a concentrated dose from mainstream media, even though it is already published and out there.

    The danger is primarily this = when their lies are hidden amongst the truth, no one questions the validity of wrong information and it just forms a pile “maybe it is true” or “maybe it isn’t”. Then they implant an EMOTIONAL DRIVER that solidifies the absorbed content. They do not do very much research themselves, they grab miles and miles of articles that are similar and join them together. Seditiously, after the EMOTIONAL DRIVER is unleashed, the hook is reeled in. The ideal audience will be captured, and invited to spend all their time listening to AJ videos, reading his website and buying his products.

    How his journalists work
    I waited for years for an original article to come out from this group. What I have realized, after a very long time, is that they are not journalists. They do not go out and research topics or do investigation pieces. Their primary job is to build a propaganda matrix from cherry picking alarmist news articles, then spin them from the AJ perspective. “We told you this was going to happen, and now all the chips are falling into place”. Yes, it is really that simple, take a reading of any of his articles and this is the one and only spin you will find.

    Left and Right paradigm are the same. Republicans and Democrats are the same. Trump is king.

    He used to portray the kind of take no sides political history, but now he supports Trump. There are many theories out there as to why he has taken this stand, but he has ultimately gone from All Politicians are Like That, to Not All Politicians are Like That. Respect level = 0%. This reeks of hidden manipulation.

    Well they have been able to bring the mens rights movement and MGTOW into the spotlight multiple times, they’re on our team!

    Video Example 1: The Sexodus Video

    COPIED CONTENT:
    Social engineering project known as third wave feminism
    What is to blame:
    Hysterical propaganda re: rape culture
    Mandatory consent classes
    Deadening of naturally rambunctious behavior through ADHD drugs such as ritalin
    Discrepancy between what women say they want and what they actually want
    Divorce process set up to grossly favor women over men
    Women are less monogamous then men

    Are western men at risk at turning into japanese herbivores?
    Is it strange that men are turning to infamous pickup artists like Julien Blanc
    Traditionally male characteristics and traits are being ridiculed by third wave feminism and contemporary culture
    Men have been brainwashed into white knight behavior

    Saying that the article was received very positively by the male community
    Starts quoting comments from after the article

    EMOTIONAL DRIVER

    EPILOGUE

    Video Example 1: Deconstruction

    Aim: To bring in and retain MRA and MGTOW into sphere of AJ

    Recipe: 1. Copy and summarize ideas from publicly available document in a monotone voice to initiate a passive mindstate in the listener
    2. When cooked, layer emotional driver over cake,
    3. refer viewers to AJ and Infodrawers, or IW.

    Video length: 426 seconds.
    Copied content: 318 seconds.
    Emotional driver and epilogue: 108 seconds.
    Percentage of video that is dedicated to emotional driver and epilogue, and is the only source of original content: Just under 25%

    COPIED CONTENT: Initially he does not allude to the fact that he is copying from an article, but this becomes apparent at the one minute mark. It becomes clear that this summary of arguments in original text in a steady stream of bombardment to numb the rational mind to be susceptible to the emotional driver.

    EMOTIONAL DRIVER: It is very clear that he has chosen a train analogy in this case to allude to a specific emotional condition. Words are used such as “Stoke heated debate”, “Dragged kicking and screaming”, “Out into the open where we can all pick apart bones”, “Train wreck of radical feminism”, “at every turn”, “establishment media is driving a wedge between men and women”, “derailing the cohesiveness of western society”,

    1. This train is on a certain course and there is no stopping it
    2. Other trains in history that were heading towards impending doom, his reference to picking apart bones is a very clear indication of what he is alluding to here.

    Video Example 2: Why men are giving up on marriage

    COPIED CONTENT:
    Waiting to later in life to get married, if at all.
    Catholic Pastor revealing amount of marriages per year he performs is down from 20 years ago
    Research study that half of adults in US are married, record low
    1960, percentage of married has decreased from 70% down to 51%
    Why are men shying away from marriage, and relationships in general?
    Apparently the pastor suggests that radical feminism is DRIVING A WEDGE between men and women.
    Quotes from Pastor re: stupid males in media
    Shows AT&T ad. Reads from comment section of this video.

    HALF TRUTHS/LIES

    COPIED CONTENT:
    Video about kids belonging to whole communities. Ron Paul video depicting the government as wanting to dumb down people, over the many centuries, by threats and intimidation, and now also with bribing.
    Article quote re: schools being dominated by feminist ideology
    Article stating there is no such thing as boy girl anymore

    HALF TRUTHS/LIES

    COPIED CONTENT:
    Article quote: feminism directs suspicious anger towards men.
    Divorce court, chilling effect on marriage. New article, 3 point primer in modern female privilege.

    HALF TRUTHS/LIES

    EMOTIONAL DRIVER: CUE HITLER VIDEO

    HALF TRUTHS/LIES

    CUE THE SEXODUS VIDEO

    Epilogue

    CUE INFODRAWERS ADs.

    Video Example 2: Deconstruction

    Aims: To place the blame of gynocracy onto Rockerfellas and the Government. To bring in and retain MRA and MGTOW into sphere of AJ

    Recipe: 2. Stir and simmer copied content at low heat, while slowly pouring in half truths and lies along the way to camouflage the lies from the viewer.
    3. When thoroughly mixed and approaching a boil, drop in the emotional driver
    3. Epilogue with Brave New World and indirectly refer viewers to AJ and IW.

    Video length: 400 seconds.
    Copied content: 226 seconds
    Half Truths and Emotional driver and Epilogue: 174 seconds
    Percentage of video that is dedicated to emotional driver and epilogue: About 44%.

    COPIED CONTENT: Arguments grabbed from published sources, videos, etc. In this example though, we spot moments within the video where he does not cite anything and this is where he plants the half-truths.

    HALF TRUTHS: Presenter claims that this manipulation is proof that this has directly resulted in declining marriages and that this is by design.

    Political elite, particular Rockerfellas, highjacking feminist movement to subjugate men and make women more dependent on government and break up nuclear family model.

    People generally hold more loyalty to their families then they do to the government, and as the government expands at the expense of individual liberties, politicians need to compensate for this by scheming the public into submission. But how do they do that? By encouraging the public to feel a deeper connection to politicians, such as obama for example, than they do to their own families.
    (Phrases this as an emotional connection manipulation issue, as opposed to hypergamy or a welfare allegiance issue -Ed)

    Best way for government to accomplish this is (apparently -Ed) through feminism. Which also allows government to reflect blame for oppressing women because feminists will simply blame the men instead. And because feminism gets women working in the workplace faster, and also gets children into public schools at an earlier age, where they can begin being indoctrinated to big government talking points

    Is it really surprising that boys are not growing up into MEN. (implication, men should be playing the game -Ed)

    Non feminist women who complain they can not find men who are comfortable in their masculinity. Feminism can be blamed for this because men shy away from masculinity as they might be labeled a rapist. Yes means yes sexual consent laws.

    With establishment supporting and bankrolling feminism to fuel hostility between men and women, and public schools telling young boys that masculinity is bad and there is no such thing as genders any more, is it really that surprising that fewer men are getting married.

    EMOTIONAL DRIVER: Hitler! With a generic video of him giving a speech coupled with an admittedly oft-misattributed quote.

    But what is the danger? They are just trying to get the information out there!

    You and I know it, the information is out there already. Their group makes videos that hide lies within a matrix of seemingly self-researched truths. They take the conservative stance, that men and women should get married and form long lasting pair bonds, but The Feminsim, The Government and The “Bad Guys” have purposefully broken the system for us. They are a cotton candy trap that tries to monopolize your time and money, inadvertently stifling their audience’s real world participation in real world issues. Keep MGTOW strong, say no to purposefully manipulative content. Peace.

    #165045
    Qeeqo
    qeeqo
    Participant

    It’s funny how this society orders us to respect and value Gay Men …until one of ’em comes out in favor of Heterosexual Men! You can swing a bat through that hypocrisy. Their hate has blinded them so much that they don’t even make sense to themselves.
    How pitiful.

    Feelings trump sense every time.

    #163275

    I hope all of you realize that once Hillary gets in office, feminists all over the country will be hysterically screaming and proving us that women are in control and lead the country.

    We will be hearing this for the next 4 or 8 years to come. White working class men will be third-class citizens once this s~~~ goes down.

    Im not really into Amercan politics (im not American), but these are my initial thought on the matter should Hillary win.

    Rather have Trump than Hillary. He’s probably a lesser puppet than Hillary will be.

    Just a Europeans 2 cents.

    Tiredofbs
    Tiredofbs
    Participant

    The game has been very heavily rigged for a very long time, the fact that men are still somewhat successful shows how incredibly resiliant we are, but the cultural marxist who have labeled men the Bourgeois will fight any attempt to openly discuss their racist, sexist, policies against us through smear, and intimidation campaigns. they will continue to make legislation until they achieve their goal of completely forcing men into 2nd class citizen status, a goal they are very close to achieving.
    This is one of the only reasons I will vote for donald trump he has made it very clear that he has his cross hairs on the cultural marxist by attacking their PC campaign

    Well said! I cannot add anything to your statement.

    Steve
    steve
    Participant

    The game has been very heavily rigged for a very long time, the fact that men are still somewhat successful shows how incredibly resiliant we are, but the cultural marxist who have labeled men the Bourgeois will fight any attempt to openly discuss their racist, sexist, policies against us through smear, and intimidation campaigns. they will continue to make legislation until they achieve their goal of completely forcing men into 2nd class citizen status, a goal they are very close to achieving.
    This is one of the only reasons I will vote for donald trump he has made it very clear that he has his cross hairs on the cultural marxist by attacking their PC campaign

    #162611
    Quietlyquietly
    Quietlyquietly
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    He’s saying all markets are gamed from the top down and what you call capitalism is a form of fascism, in reality. We live in a fascist nation, and not because trump wants to close the border.

    Actually the labor glutting from the open border is the fascism.

    Well considering fascism is very loosely defined you can pretty much claim any amount of capitalism is fascism. What’s the alternative, not allow any private ownership of property?

    All markets ARE gamed from the top down, and to think otherwise is naive.

    There is no such thing as property ownership anymore – you continue to rent your property from the State in the form of rates and property taxes, even once your mortgage is paid off. If you don’t pay, your property can be confiscated and sold underneath you. That shows you don’t freely own it. Fascism is here. Wake up!

    #162606
    Beer
    Beer
    Participant

    He’s saying all markets are gamed from the top down and what you call capitalism is a form of fascism, in reality. We live in a fascist nation, and not because trump wants to close the border.

    Actually the labor glutting from the open border is the fascism.

    Well considering fascism is very loosely defined you can pretty much claim any amount of capitalism is fascism. What’s the alternative, not allow any private ownership of property?

    #162474
    CodeBleu
    CodeBleu
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    She probably hurt her hand punching him.

    My guess is that she drunkenly fell down his stairs and hurt herself. Ant laughed about it and it p~~~ed her off. Dani has a history of being bats~~~. She ‘scoped the aftermath trying to set Ant up. He looked pretty confident on his show today. Obviously he couldn’t talk about the case under the advisement of his legal team. Someone as confident as Ant with security cameras all over his house, may very well have a trump card to exonerate himself.

    Anthony likes the crazy ones and Bobby Kelly the prophet warned him about it on an earlier show.

    Maybe after the dust settles he’ll consider going his own way.

    Binary Logic
    Binary Logic
    Participant

    So what’s the solution… back to the gold standard? Crypto-currency? Barter economy? Bottle caps?

    This is dangerous. any currency backed by a tangible item is doomed to meet adversity by world powers. It is the same reason they killed Gadhafi. In short..

    He had a plan to stop selling Libyan oil for U.S dollars and start trading it for the Dinar currency (which is backed by about 150 tons of gold). What more is that in this plan he also was backed by the areas wealth of diamonds. To give you an example.. I’m actually in Bahrain now.. and the it the exchange rate is about $2.65 to 1 Bahrain Dinar. Ask yourself why this is possible in a place that is generally a spec on the map compared to other nations.

    Anyhow..

    Ironically, somehow, Nato got involved with the whole Gadhafi biz, most likely due to some trumped up charges… he and his sons ended up dying in the streets like dogs.The point is, when you disturb the idea of keeping people in debt, you directly threaten the world economy as a whole. And we all know the powers that be can’t have that…

    Untamed
    Untamed
    Participant

    That’s a great observation, BigTl13. I could’ve never have put it quite that succinctly within such a short post, although Trump’s game is as transparent as Hillary’s.
    When he announced his running for office I actually thought it a good thing, if only it meant a good dose of reality in that whole shenanigan they call an Election but a year in the running and some light shed on his motivations and methods have shown me that he’s merely a counterweight in a clusterf~~~ election of candidates who have no shot at the White House whatsoever.
    I thought Trump would rise above the others and his own ego, putting aside his more extreme motivations, while faced with light-weight opponents and extremists like Clinton then win in a landslide but I see now that his intentions were never to win the Presidency but to clear the way for his T~~~ buddy Hillary.
    In any case, I always thought that whoever won the Presidency wouldn’t matter. The nightmare agendas would still be pursued and continued by higher powers-that-be independent shakers and movers and no societal improvements to the benefit of John Q. Public would be mandated.
    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    RoyDal
    RoyDal
    Participant

    I agree with you in general.
    Add to your analysis the fact that Trump is a long time friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    BigTL13
    BigTL13
    Participant

    After following Trump’s political activity recently, I’ve come to a conclusion that his methods are similar to a food chain cycle. Trump said from the start that when he stopped receiving attention, he would leave, thing is, he’s gotten attention from Day 1. Obviously a well known businessman suddenly standing up and running for a political position turns heads in that world, probably because people like to act that businesses and politics have nothing to do with each other. Anyway, after the initial burst of attention from announcing a campaign, Trump began to make statements, we all know about the wall proposal, which generated controversy and huge amounts of head turning. Here enters the Progressives, who are the other half of this political food chain. For the first time in a while Progressives can finally direct their hatred toward something and have much of the general public on their side. With each Statement by Trump, the Progressives lashed out, which, further along, allowed Trump to gain attention, but also popularity. Due to Trump being completely unapologetic, he has earned popularity among those who are against PC culture. Thus, the chain is completed this way, the outrage generated by Trump provides him the attention and popularity he needs to be convinced to continue his career, while the Progressives have something that they can write hit pieces about that the General public will in some cases actually support. One cannot thrive like they have without the other, Trump needs the attention, and the Progressives need something to write stories about so they don’t devolve into petty issues like aircon and manspreading, that cause them to lose favor with the public.

    Get the Fuck Up, Brush yourself off, and stand against the current

    #160632

    In reply to: wearing suits

    JollyMisanthrope
    JollyMisanthrope
    Participant

    Comfort trumps fashion in my book.

    The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
    Economist
    economist
    Participant

    I’m still most definitely going to vote for Trump. Yeah, he blusters in front of the camera, what politician doesn’t; however I love that he has a hardline approach on U.S. Nationalism and at least wants to try to protect our borders and our Western values. You have to realize that congress is going to take a lot of the wind out of his sails, and it will be a struggle for him to pass his more… well, let’s be honest, rediculous campaign proposals. Nonetheless, given Bernie “It’s time for a socialist revolution” Sanders and Hillary… yeah I’m going with Trump. Even if he doesn’t accomplish s~~~ he won’t throw us to the SJW wolves.

    #160444

    Sorry. I’ll post the pic I intended to have.

    https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/trump.gif?w=1000Trump dancing.

    #160380
    Blue Skies
    Blue Skies
    Participant

    unfortunately, Hilary has a better shot at winning than Trump

    MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

    #160252

    Looks like Colonel Sanders here is in a bit of a knot.

    Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ campaign improperly accessed confidential voter information gathered by the rival campaign of Hillary Clinton, according to reports Thursday.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sanders-campaign-accessed-confidential-clinton-voter-data-article-1.2469915

    And now he’s mad that his campaign and access to his voters are being suspended.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/

    What a good day it is to be Trump.

    https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/trump.gif?w=1000” target=”_blank”>https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/trump.gif?w=1000

    #159836

    “If you want something talked about, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman.”

    More reason not to vote for a woman. I’m going to have no idea who to vote for. Jeb Bush sounds like a weak cuck who gets publically humiliated not just by Donald Trump, but by himself as well.

    #159504

    To be honest, I think its a good thing BCC covered MGTOW.

    Did they do a good job at covering it? F~~~, hell no.

    But…

    Is this going to make MGTOW even bigger? Likely.

    Negative publicity is still publicity. Just look at Trump.

    Look at the bright side guys…. Plenty of fresh red-pillers are waiting at the MGTOW doorsteps, the line just grew a bit bigger.

    You should be happy about that. And if MGTOW equals giving 0 f~~~s. Then I choose to give 0 f~~~s about the BBC. So where is your 0-f~~~ mode? All is frustration and anger. Not going to ruin my day for a mangina and his TV-show 😀

    Quietlyquietly
    Quietlyquietly
    Participant

    I play trumpet in a few bands, and I’m learning trombone. I would dearly love to have my own workshop with tools (I only have a few for basic car and bike repairs at the mo). I keep an eye on certain commodities and precious metals too. Above all, I try to unplug from all the societal behaviours foisted upon me. It’s tough work, and ongoing, but rewarding as anything! For the first time this morning, I watched my dad try and guilt trip me! I never noticed before, and this time I just sat there and watched it happen without getting involved. Satisfaction level = Jedi

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