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- 2018-12-28 at 3:51 PM#881643
Which is a lie and you are full of bulls~~~ prove your case with evidence till then i got some actual evidence which is on the side of Science (but of course you will cry Conspiracy over it).
The lie is found in the eco-fascists constantly changing their narrative.
I have live long enough to remember the eco-fascists screaming that there is a coming ice age, then a warming age, then “climate change” as a catch-all for all weather because it was clear the lies were not holding up.
All the way, the same eco-fascist demanding more money for themselves and more enslavement of the people.
The “hockey stick graph” has been proven to be a lie. And if you do not know the term I am talking about, you out yourself as repeating a message, instead of understanding the message you repeat.
Probably so but People are fond of gaming other systems as well but gaming Welfare is not akin to let’s get rid of Welfare even for those who do not game the system.
Have you actually read the other threads on this forum. So many threads on how women game the system.
I said those sources in the third post i did in this thread and here i will quote it.
You did not provide any links until much later.
I posted this on the first page of this thread so if you cannot understand that your ass needs glasses yes i did not provide link for Secular talk (i only told you how to find it) but Reason.com will take you straight to Reason.com.
Reason is anything but reasonable. I suggest you broaden your scope of sources. Or better yet, go onto political forums, read threads, to get a feel of how people are and the facts on the ground, instead of letting someone tell you their view of events that are taking place.
Show me the evidence of that (Jewish sources do not count).
You said this. Not I. I am going to remember your post here for when you try that type of false accusation.
I state it does not make Trump special not that it is a moral or right action. If Joe Smoe gets wiretapped what is the difference that Donald Trump gets wiretapped? and no this is not an argument for wiretapping.
You really do not understand. The point is the way government is doing its widespread wiretapping is not only wrong, but illegal by their own FISA laws.
Add to this government documents have been released that prove much of the wiretapping is abusive with political interests directing the wiretapping.
For example, it is proven those directing the wiretapping of President Trump had to submit documents that were lies to a federal judge on the FISA court to get the wiretapping done. That type of lying is felony perjury.
This is why those individuals are so obsessed with overthrowing President Trump. They are all accessories to several felonies and overthrowing him is the only way to insure they do not get to prison.
Bump stocks still should be legal as making them illegal violates others rights who have not committed a crime.
There are so many forms of “process crimes”/”possession crimes”, yet this is the one you plant your flag on.
If you instead supported legalizing weed, I could understand. But this sounds like you only are for bump stocks because President Trump is against bump stocks.
Depends on the specific area as some areas Spanish is more common but there is no such thing as a National Language but rather a more spoken one. If you want a National Language so bad you can go to Canada as English is one of the National Languages there (till then we can speak whatever Languages we want such as English, Spanish, French, Arabic, German etc) and Languages can change overtime (so Spanish can become a dominant Language no problem or French or German).
As long as it is english is not the dominant language.
You are showing your bigotry in that you hate western culture and you wish to replace it.
You are not fooling anyone.
Something which Brexit does not stop.
Brexit is still in play. And Brexit is showing where everyone stands, much like how President Trump being elected is showing where everyone stand.
The ones i know are more likely to be Conspiracy Theorist retards then their counterparts and by MAGA i mean the real Trump supporters not just Libertarians, those who could give a f~~~, those who lean in the center or those who sometimes lean to the right.
You are so ignorant that your ignorance would be funny if it was not sad.
I and others have pointed out what MAGA supporters are.
Unless it contradicts their narrative of that, if you want to move from Latin America, Syria or other third world Countries to America for freedom and you cannot afford a legal method or if you were brought to America as a Child then they are not for you having that option especially if they commit the crimes of still learning their Language or still keeping their Traditions even if they live, work and support America (like if some Arab supports America but is speaking Arabic with some friends in public or People who speak Spanish to each other).
You believe people around the world should invade the U.S. and act like uninvited houseguest who believe they own the place.
There are videos of Trumptards and racists like them going off on People for speaking a Foreign Language even if it not to them.
Scripted videos. On the other hand, there are videos of progressives rioting and committing violence against Trump/MAGA supporters.
I admit that my Political leaning does have the typical Feminist s~~~ in it (women’s right to vote, Bernie talking about women earning less then men etc)
You are on a MGTOW forum support THIS blue pill claim.
but my affilation is not for Traditional values and Family so they are the ones in the wrong when they basically are Feminists yet want to be Traditional where the man is the breadwinner and s~~~. They will look down on Akmid for having his Traditional Society in Arabia (where women have no rights) and then push Feminist s~~~ such as the first and second waves of it.
We are starting to get a better look at you.
You oppose western society, which you benefit from. You oppose traditional values and family. And you admit to holding feminist views.
But are against Government to restrict and break up the Monopolies.
To repeat. MAGA supporters are for breaking up monopolies. This is why the elitists running the social media and corporations want President Trump out and his supporters censored, so the elitists can maintain their monopolistic cartels.
That would be a funny story that i could tell People who visit me in a Nursing home in 70 years but nope however when did you figure i was a Government agent? any dates or posts you can point me to? oh my God Sandals just exposed me for what i am.
After reading your latest posts, I disagree with Sandals.
After you admit to being against manly values (traditional family, traditional values, freedom, and western society). While you admit to supporting feminism views and eco-fascist views. In addition, your support of these views have been shown to be superficial, with you refusing to show any detailed debate on the issues. Instead, you keep repeating the same things, instead of showing details, and you resort to issues.
All these statements by you show very feminine traits.
Taking all this into account, I believe you are a woman and I AM CALLING FOR THE PUNT!!
2018-12-28 at 3:14 PM#881639Faust, Beer… anonymousyam is a paid government agent. I figured that out several years ago.
I would not be surprised.
I have not had a good through debate like this in years. It brings back good memories.
Their responses are designed to waste your time chasing things and going in different directions, making you always “proove it”, and never actually saying anything real themselves or following one line of argument to the end.
Here is something to think about. Back in 2015, the military brass in charge of the police state surveillance were the ones that convinced Donald Trump to run for president.
I can only imagine how much disgust the government registers by the American people.
It is clear that those whom actually oversee all this realize the direction being taken will leave them without pensions and a safe culture for their families to live in.
2018-12-27 at 1:52 PM#881525How to increase the deficit and debt is to decrease taxes especially on the rich and even evil Socialist Bernie Sanders plan would have someone making your amount pay only a 15 percent tax rate (as for the example) would have 4268 dollars more of disposable income then your case with the person paying a 22 percent tax rate.
I was talking about my state, which doesn’t really apply to Bernie Sanders…and what happens as it keeps getting more expensive here? Businesses as well as skilled, educated people keep leaving the state because they have better opportunities elsewhere. I know people who have moved 4-5 hours away and go from paying 6,000 dollars in property taxes on a modest house to <1500 for a bigger house on a nicer lot.
Which would be cut under the evil Socialist however i am not going to University because i cannot afford it and if another recession was to occur id still be forced to pick whatever job i can take (so id be working in Mcdonalds with a a college degree with debt instead of working Mcdonalds without one without that debt).
So let’s talk about our government making healthcare cheaper.

The blue bar is government spending. As you can see, our government is already spending more per capita than most countries with universal healthcare. If they are going to save us so much money on healthcare, why are they currently spending more per capita than countries like the UK and Canada and providing us so much less benefit?
Make college cheaper? How? Spreading around who pays for it isn’t going to make it cheaper. In fact its just f~~~ing me up the ass because I worked hard and paid for mine already. Besides, it was much cheaper before they started giving endless student loans out. Its just a shame people are too stupid to stop and think “What have we been doing differently since the cost of tuition has been out pacing inflation year after year,” because that coincides with the government becoming more involved in student loans.
In the current system id have to agree since alot of our taxes go to the overbloated Military, or Israel or to fund the Programs due to Corporations getting their taxes cut (and to Corporations and ballouts as well). I don’t want to have my taxes have to go to those things which are a complete waste of my money (not the Programs which actually benefit People rather the other examples). Id feel alot better knowing my taxes are going to actually help People instead of making Corporations more money, instead of allowing Israel to buy more Weapons, instead of continuing to prop up the American war machine etc.
You support higher taxes and a bigger government, yet you disapprove of how the government handles your money.
I support lower taxes and less government, because I disapprove of how the government handles my money.
That makes you either a leech who just doesn’t care so long as you get some bread crumbs for doing nothing, or a dumbass, or both.
If you mean by deporting 11 million People that is retarded as the real answer (or at least a better one) is legalizing a good number of them here and then making a simple process for People to come here if they want rather then forcing People to come here illegally. With your system that will increase Government control as how do we determine who is and who is not legal without violating the rights of those legal?
Stop and frisking Mexicans due to Mexicans being the typical image of illegals does not cut it as that violates the rights of the Citizens.
I never said anything about deporting 11 million people or stopping and frisking Mexicans. I said crack down on employers who higher them, don’t give them access to any social programs, and stop it with catch and release policies because they just skip their court dates and disappear.
Its like you can’t even actually comprehend what I’m saying because you are just so programmed to barf out the same retarded liberal talking points over and over and over.
Social Security is one thing which especially fails to Republicans desires to cut the programs along with others which help People. People like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are the ones who will f~~~ it up even more to where the benefits will decrease if not run out however what is your opinion on what would be a better option then Social Security and how would it work? (replacing Social Security with nothing is a terrible idea and the thing you would switch it out with has to work as well).
I’d make it optional and self funded. If you think its a great program and a good way to secure your future stay in it. If you think it sucks, nobody is forcing you to pay into. If you pay into it for some years and opt out at some point prior to retirement you collect the partial benefits you have already earned.
Nationalist is a term of pride and honor so i cannot call him that but even that would be a false thing to call him as one thing he has is Businesses in other Countries and has stakes in Businesses in other Countries meaning he takes Foreign money (a big no no for being in power). Now if you say i am bulls~~~ting or alike here is one example straight from the Trump website.
https://www.trump.com/real-estate-portfolio/india/trump-tower-mumbai/This is Trump’s tremendous Hotel in Mumbai India but if you continue going on his Website you can find he has Businesses in Scotland, Canada, United Arab Emirates, Turkey, South Korea, the Philipines and Uraguay now the Man who owns or at least has part in all of these properties is now the President and is supposed to be a Nationalist for the interests of the United States?
Nationalist is a term of pride and honor so i cannot call him that but even that would be a false thing to call him as one thing he has is Businesses in other Countries and has stakes in Businesses in other Countries meaning he takes Foreign money (a big no no for being in power). Now if you say i am bulls~~~ting or alike here is one example straight from the Trump website.
https://www.trump.com/real-estate-portfolio/india/trump-tower-mumbai/This is Trump’s tremendous Hotel in Mumbai India but if you continue going on his Website you can find he has Businesses in Scotland, Canada, United Arab Emirates, Turkey, South Korea, the Philipines and Uraguay now the Man who owns or at least has part in all of these properties is now the President and is supposed to be a Nationalist for the interests of the United States?
A private business expanding around the globe for the purpose of making money has absolutely nothing to do with supporting a one world government.
Stop and frisk as it is a policy which mostly affects Blacks and Hispanics and is not effective (but even if it was that would still not make it constitutional and here is a video of Trump supporting it
Well its not unconstitutional
And it can be effective
The mixture of Religion and Government and using the Government to promote Religion and Pence is for it since he wanted to use the Government to push for Creationism in Schools.
So in other words, no, you don’t know what a theocracy is lol.
No i am not for moving them all however race issue do exist in Latin America as well as other Countries. This is akin to stating that the Germans will not bitch about the Slavs or the Irish will not bitch about the Germans because they are all White.
Its just proof that it isn’t a race issue, and there are other factors in play. Like I said, stop being so blind.
2018-12-26 at 8:24 PM#881468“Climate change” is a lie because eco-fascists seek to censor and imprison those people whom use FACTS to disprove “climate change”.
Which is a lie and you are full of bulls~~~ prove your case with evidence till then i got some actual evidence which is on the side of Science (but of course you will cry Conspiracy over it).
Some people game the system, but you clearly do not know the difference.
Probably so but People are fond of gaming other systems as well but gaming Welfare is not akin to let’s get rid of Welfare even for those who do not game the system.
You do not provide any links on this thread until your recent post to me.
I said those sources in the third post i did in this thread and here i will quote it.
The only true attacks on Trump has been Lefist Media or Libertarian media who actually provide the real attacks against him with my 2 examples being Secular talk on Youtube and reason.com as these are some of the best sources for it (in my opinion).
I posted this on the first page of this thread so if you cannot understand that your ass needs glasses yes i did not provide link for Secular talk (i only told you how to find it) but Reason.com will take you straight to Reason.com.
Perhaps you did not understand my previous post on this. I will make this clear. NO ONE IN AUTHORITY of the Iranian government signed that agreement. The agreement was nonbinding.
Show me the evidence of that (Jewish sources do not count).
Clearly, you have no understanding of the foundations and rights the U.S. was built on.
I state it does not make Trump special not that it is a moral or right action. If Joe Smoe gets wiretapped what is the difference that Donald Trump gets wiretapped? and no this is not an argument for wiretapping.
It do not take a genius to figure out one a government organization tasked with regulating guns would legalize an add-on to guns which allows guns to fire at a high rate with no accuracy
Bump stocks still should be legal as making them illegal violates others rights who have not committed a crime. Under your logic id be fine with restricting or banning guns since they have the capability to kill People even random People (stray bullets hitting People which kills them). You know how many accidents occur each year with guns?
Now in all seriousness you punish someone for using a bump stock if they murder someone not just for owning a bump stock or other so called illegal weapons.
So, you admit that one language is used more in the U.S., and it a language of a culture YOU HATE.
Depends on the specific area as some areas Spanish is more common but there is no such thing as a National Language but rather a more spoken one. If you want a National Language so bad you can go to Canada as English is one of the National Languages there (till then we can speak whatever Languages we want such as English, Spanish, French, Arabic, German etc) and Languages can change overtime (so Spanish can become a dominant Language no problem or French or German).
The globalists are doing a slow mostly genocide and replacement of the native European populations and the Europeans are realizing this and fighting back in any way they can.
Something which Brexit does not stop.
I doubt you even know any MAGA supporters in person and use the corporate media for you opinions.
The ones i know are more likely to be Conspiracy Theorist retards then their counterparts and by MAGA i mean the real Trump supporters not just Libertarians, those who could give a f~~~, those who lean in the center or those who sometimes lean to the right.
MAGA supporters want life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Unless it contradicts their narrative of that, if you want to move from Latin America, Syria or other third world Countries to America for freedom and you cannot afford a legal method or if you were brought to America as a Child then they are not for you having that option especially if they commit the crimes of still learning their Language or still keeping their Traditions even if they live, work and support America (like if some Arab supports America but is speaking Arabic with some friends in public or People who speak Spanish to each other).
There are videos of Trumptards and racists like them going off on People for speaking a Foreign Language even if it not to them.
You make such accusation in the hopes of destroying a culture you wish to destroy and replace.
I admit that my Political leaning does have the typical Feminist s~~~ in it (women’s right to vote, Bernie talking about women earning less then men etc) but my affilation is not for Traditional values and Family so they are the ones in the wrong when they basically are Feminists yet want to be Traditional where the man is the breadwinner and s~~~. They will look down on Akmid for having his Traditional Society in Arabia (where women have no rights) and then push Feminist s~~~ such as the first and second waves of it.
MAGA are against monopolies. MAGA supporters do not fit in the little generalized boxes you view people as being in.
But are against Government to restrict and break up the Monopolies.
Now onto the next guy really quick.
anonymousyam is a paid government agent. I figured that out several years ago
That would be a funny story that i could tell People who visit me in a Nursing home in 70 years but nope however when did you figure i was a Government agent? any dates or posts you can point me to? oh my God Sandals just exposed me for what i am.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
2018-12-26 at 7:37 PM#881460Our debt and our deficits are bigger than ever.
How to increase the deficit and debt is to decrease taxes especially on the rich and even evil Socialist Bernie Sanders plan would have someone making your amount pay only a 15 percent tax rate (as for the example) would have 4268 dollars more of disposable income then your case with the person paying a 22 percent tax rate.
but wait…you’ve got to pay your student loans, your health insurance
Which would be cut under the evil Socialist however i am not going to University because i cannot afford it and if another recession was to occur id still be forced to pick whatever job i can take (so id be working in Mcdonalds with a a college degree with debt instead of working Mcdonalds without one without that debt).
after a few years of being a contributor you will realize how foolish it is to support an expensive, big, and bloated government.
In the current system id have to agree since alot of our taxes go to the overbloated Military, or Israel or to fund the Programs due to Corporations getting their taxes cut (and to Corporations and ballouts as well). I don’t want to have my taxes have to go to those things which are a complete waste of my money (not the Programs which actually benefit People rather the other examples). Id feel alot better knowing my taxes are going to actually help People instead of making Corporations more money, instead of allowing Israel to buy more Weapons, instead of continuing to prop up the American war machine etc.
Being legally forced to put almost 16,000 dollars into a failing investment this year.
Social Security is one thing which especially fails to Republicans desires to cut the programs along with others which help People. People like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are the ones who will f~~~ it up even more to where the benefits will decrease if not run out however what is your opinion on what would be a better option then Social Security and how would it work? (replacing Social Security with nothing is a terrible idea and the thing you would switch it out with has to work as well).
Make it easier to get rid of them once they are captured and proven illegal
If you mean by deporting 11 million People that is retarded as the real answer (or at least a better one) is legalizing a good number of them here and then making a simple process for People to come here if they want rather then forcing People to come here illegally. With your system that will increase Government control as how do we determine who is and who is not legal without violating the rights of those legal?
Stop and frisking Mexicans due to Mexicans being the typical image of illegals does not cut it as that violates the rights of the Citizens.
I think the Trump insult you are looking for, as favored by the mainstream media, is that he is a nationalist lol
Nationalist is a term of pride and honor so i cannot call him that but even that would be a false thing to call him as one thing he has is Businesses in other Countries and has stakes in Businesses in other Countries meaning he takes Foreign money (a big no no for being in power). Now if you say i am bulls~~~ting or alike here is one example straight from the Trump website.
https://www.trump.com/real-estate-portfolio/india/trump-tower-mumbai/This is Trump’s tremendous Hotel in Mumbai India but if you continue going on his Website you can find he has Businesses in Scotland, Canada, United Arab Emirates, Turkey, South Korea, the Philipines and Uraguay now the Man who owns or at least has part in all of these properties is now the President and is supposed to be a Nationalist for the interests of the United States?
As far as racist…what is one racist policy Trump supports?
Stop and frisk as it is a policy which mostly affects Blacks and Hispanics and is not effective (but even if it was that would still not make it constitutional and here is a video of Trump supporting it
Theocratic state? I just have to ask…do you even know what a theocracy is?
The mixture of Religion and Government and using the Government to promote Religion and Pence is for it since he wanted to use the Government to push for Creationism in Schools.
But now let’s move all those people 5 miles north on the the American side of the border and its a race issue. Stop being so blind
No i am not for moving them all however race issue do exist in Latin America as well as other Countries. This is akin to stating that the Germans will not bitch about the Slavs or the Irish will not bitch about the Germans because they are all White.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
2018-12-26 at 6:26 PM#881456Can’t we just place drones across the boarder and shoot the people who try to cross illegally? Seems it solves two birds with one stone
You mean placing drones into Mexico and shooting those trying to cross the border? no you cannot do that for obvious reasons but even if not on the moral side that makes it to where the Government can trap us in the Country and shooting us for trying to escape it (like the Berlin wall or North Korea).
. In other words, many of us Americans could retreat to the lands of our ancestors (Europe, Africa, Asia, etc.), but will we? No.
By consenting to leave generally no unless there is a real Nationalist instinct in them (which will exist but be a Minority).
they have some meaningful goals, such as: getting a job, going to school, starting a business, etc. In California,
Illegals actually are likely to work however it is generally low paying fields where it is easier to deny them Minimum wage, rights as Workers, Worker protections etc.
Exactly, Money is not the problem. This is pure politics.
When it comes to Trump money is a real problem as he wants to spend billions on a wall while he cuts taxes (cutting taxes equals less money to build the wall and have upkeep of it). Trump is the man to put everything on the credit card aside from Programs that would benefit Citizens and then to watch it collaspe when he will no longer be in Office (whether he goes to Prison or just retires).
The Democrats will not allow a Wall to be built on our southern border
Which is a lie as funding for border security increased under Obama with more agents and better technology. While Obama did not waste money to build a symbolic wall (which the Trump wall is) there was still heavy amounts of Border Security under Obama. So yes there are secure areas with fences, sensors, cameras and more which protect the Border especially in populated areas where People are more likely to attempt crossing.
But when it comes to just a single wall there are problems there as i mentioned above as places where the wall needs to built is private property and parts of the Border go through Mountains and Rivers.
Building a Wall means the Democrats lose their constant supply of fresh Votes.
Illegals can’t vote and Conservatives cannot find evidence of Illegals voting in the Presidental elections however Conservatives are fond of Election fraud which has a far bigger impact then the amount of voter fraud (you are more likely to struck by lightning then there is to be voter fraud to a real degree as it sure as hell not change the outcomes of an election).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
2018-12-26 at 6:50 AM#881412
AnonymousThe problem here is Trump simply could have increased taxes on the rich and cut giving money to Israel to fund the wall among other things (not by cutting Social programs) because reducing the amount of tax means reducing the amount for the wall. Hell even this went to a whole billion dollars the fact that is still 1/5 of the wall price if not even less. So yes i am Skeptical of this.
Exactly, Money is not the problem. This is pure politics. The Democrats will not allow a Wall to be built on our southern border. That is where the Dems get their voting base from. Building a Wall means the Democrats lose their constant supply of fresh Votes.
2018-12-23 at 10:31 AM#881171You could state whatever nonsense you like the facts still remain that Climate change is a real and dangerous threat and i can get peer review sources to prove it (but of course the Scientists must be paid off by the Globalists so id doubt you would accept the Science).
“Climate change” is a lie because eco-fascists seek to censor and imprison those people whom use FACTS to disprove “climate change”.
Alot of Welfare payments actually goes to the Working class because the Companies do not pay People a living wage forcing them to rely on Government assistance. You can work 40 hours a week and not survive even as just a Single Person.
You do not even know how welfare works.
Some people game the system, but you clearly do not know the difference.
I have mentioned the sources a few f~~~ing times already but here is the last time i will mention them (because you can’t get it through your thick skull. First is the Social Democratic Secular Talk, second is Reason.com a Libertarian website which has posted things against Trump (not all that uncommon whenever Trump supports the NAP violation of Torture). Hell if you wanna be fast you can just go to it through my comment (you highlight reason.com and then you go to it.
You do not provide any links on this thread until your recent post to me.
Explain it then and provide evidence of it.
You first.
If a President can get away with not doing it then that is the far better option then inciting more hatred and violence but outside of that how does this benefit America and it’s People?
During the 2016 election campaign, President Trump made a promise over moving that embassy, and after he was elected he kept his promise. One of many promises he kept. I know that is a foreign idea of a politicians keeping his promises, but stranger things have happened.
The thing with the bill is that it prevented Iran from obtaining Nukes and using it’s Nuclear capabilities to make Nukes. And one Globalist thing about your position here is that they would just love a war with Iran to create an even greater Israel (it is what happened with Iraq and places around it.
Perhaps you did not understand my previous post on this. I will make this clear. NO ONE IN AUTHORITY of the Iranian government signed that agreement. The agreement was nonbinding.
Yes and instead of reasoning he shuts down the Government in a tantrum.
That is not a tantrum, that is due process of government. When representative government is in disagree, government grinds to a halt. That is how the system was designed to work.
Actually alot more People have been wiretapped then just Trump so it is not that special even Obama was reported to have been wiretapped by the Government.
Now you are claiming that wiretapping is alright because it is done to everyone. Clearly, you have no understanding of the foundations and rights the U.S. was built on.
The thing here is we are dealing with a Public leader who’s Policies effect the future of the Country and even the World. So yes he should have to show is tax return just like how Obama was pushed into showing his Birth Certificate (one of the biggest Conservative complaints was him not doing it meaning he must be a Kenyan Muslim).
Funny you mention Obama. All his records were either sealed or scrubbed.
And that was a “declaration of birth” document which was presented, not a “birth certificate”.
Obama is as translucent as granite.
Here is a source you should trust more then others.
You did not read the date of the article: February 2, 2017
President Trump has been in office in all of a week and a half. He has not even had time to get his staff ready by then.
By the way, President Trump has been working to end the Yemen War, through a carrot (arms sales) and stick (dumping U.S. oil onto the world market) approach.
[quote quote=881159]No as you are against the second amendment and freedom by doing this. The logic of yours is the Military can have Machine guns but the Citizens cannot have them in a legal manner and that is evading the times it would be needed for them (like of Hillary Clinton declared herself Queen of America or decided to take your guns away).
You do not know what a bump stock is, works, nor the background on how a bump stock was made legal.
The ATF declared the bump stock to be legal. It do not take a genius to figure out one a government organization tasked with regulating guns would legalize an add-on to guns which allows guns to fire at a high rate with no accuracy.
It depends if the sources are backed up by evidence or not. I mention that of course the so called MSM is not my main source of information however if they post something that can be shown to be true that which can be shown is correct.
Up until your previous reply to me, you did not share you sources.
Which means he enables Terrorism and gave the media a even bigger show due to paying off People.
You consider paying off a blackmailing whore to be an act of terrorism.
The US has no primary Language unless you are into racist bulls~~~.
You view anything you do not like a “rascism”. Well, Obama destroyed the “race”, and the feminists are doing a good job of destroying the “gender card”.
I am a US Citizen based on Documents such as a Birth Certificate however that does not mean i cannot speak Spanish or communicate mostly in it (aside when forced to speak English or forced to disprove People like you).
So, you admit that one language is used more in the U.S., and it a language of a culture YOU HATE.
Who do you think pays for all these programs?
Via taxation.
That is my point. Those being taxed into bankruptcy do not receive benefits from those taxes.
No as you are intentionally dishonest to state that, English and Brit is the same i am not claiming non British People were Native to England (but that after Brexit the Government will not kick out non Brits as what a real Nationalist action would entail).
You are truly ignorant of what is happening in Europe. The globalists are doing a slow mostly genocide and replacement of the native European populations and the Europeans are realizing this and fighting back in any way they can.
Populism based solely on the Racism against those who are not English speakers or who communicate in in different Languages.
Now, you are the bigot whom accuses those you do not like of racism.
Of course alot of Trump voters were not Racists and voted because they thought that Trump would keep their jobs here but the real die hard MAGA fans tend to be Racist.
I doubt you even know any MAGA supporters in person and use the corporate media for you opinions.
MAGA supporters want life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But, you and those like you believe those desires are BIGOTRY.
When it comes to guns you are fine with it except in restrictions such as bump stocks and others which are you fine with banning.
You lack even basic critical thinking on matters.
Traditionalism is a part of Cuckservativsm with it being a bulls~~~ sham not akin to what worked in the past. When it comes to anti media they are against big sources regardless of evidence and for smaller more bulls~~~ sources.
You make such accusation in the hopes of destroying a culture you wish to destroy and replace.
When it comes to Monopolies they are for it as they are against Regulations which would restrict them. For the Workers f~~~ no to this as they are fine with keeping the Minimum wage the same or cutting it completely while reducing the benefits and protections workers receive and breaking up Unions but with Communism, Private Companies by definition cannot exist (they are not owned by the People nor the State).
MAGA are against monopolies. MAGA supporters do not fit in the little generalized boxes you view people as being in.
So yes you are full of bulls~~~ once more.
No. You are full of hate. And we are fighting your hate to gain our freedom.
2018-12-23 at 7:48 AM#881166And i fight for higher Government taxes on the rich and to redirect Government spending what ways that actually benefit People (excessive Military spending, sending the money to Israel or Saudi Arabia etc) do not help the actual People and to force those in power to adopt these Policies and stick to them (aka the Guy who ran as a populist but doing s~~~ gets voted out in the next election).
So I’m gonna go out on a limb here, and judging from posts you’ve made in the past assume you are rather young and haven’t had much time to work yet, I may even go as far out to guess you are still a student. You’ll see it differently when you are working and living on your own. Its probably all meaningless numbers to you at this point, but if you live in my state and make 60k per year…
You’ll get hit for 13,940 in federal and state income taxes, for an effective tax rate of 23.23%.
The average property tax on a modest house is about 4000-5000 per year, and property tax a decent, new-ish car about 500…so we’ll just say about 5,000 in property taxes for another 8.33% tax
We also have a sales tax, gas tax, car registration, license renewal fees, surcharges on utility and phone bills to support various initiatives, and probably more various fees and crap I can’t even think of off the top of my head. You basically work for free 5 months out of the year because that is the cut the government takes.
We’ve got high taxes and big government here and we don’t have a happy, healthy population. We actually have a population that has shrunk in recent years because people and businesses are leaving. Our debt and our deficits are bigger than ever.
So now let’s just say out of that 60k a year, you end up with like 38k a year to live off…but wait…you’ve got to pay your student loans, your health insurance, and hopefully are smart enough to save something for retirement before you figure out what you really have left to live off. Rent alone on a small apartment in a semi decent area is going to cost you 900 bucks a month. When you have higher than average property taxes you get higher than average rents. Then suddenly…you have a stroke of genius…if the government subsidized some of those things for you, life would be easier. Problem is they raise your taxes to hand out those subsidies and in the end you are worse off than before. The only people that make out are those that weren’t contributing to begin with. Like I said, you sound young, after a few years of being a contributor you will realize how foolish it is to support an expensive, big, and bloated government.
Actually that really depends on many factors rather then just 1/3 of your income going to Government. Often Progressive tax systems state X money over Y is taxed at a higher rate, and then over Z etc.
Like I said, you sound young, you probably just don’t know any better, so let me give you another example of why I don’t want the government having more of my money. Let’s look at social security.
I paid 7,960.80 into social security this year. My employer matches that amount…so technically I paid 15,921.6 into social security. The program is going to be broke and probably paying out a fraction of what its promising by the time I’m old enough to collect. You know what sucks? Being legally forced to put almost 16,000 dollars into a failing investment this year.
Likewise if I were to put that money into an investment account for myself and average 7% returns for 25 years. SS won’t even cover a 2% draw down rate on what I could have saved on my own. Arguing for them to take more of your money and control more of your life is really f~~~ing stupid, unless you’ve got some plan to milk the government for way more than you contribute, in which case you are either legitimately disabled and need the help or you are absolute trash.
The thing about the Illegals is the plan of deporting 11 million People is an impossible feat which will violate the rights of Citizens in the process. So legal Citizens in the Illegal looking camp (like Mexicans or others from Latin America) will get frisked on the basis of Race even when they are Innocent. And the best analogy i can make to it is George Bush after 9/11 punishing Citizens for the action of a couple Terrorists by further stripping away the rights of Citizens. In order to try to scope out all Terror (which is not occuring from the Government to the People) you need to spy on Citizens who have committed nor suspected of committing a crime.
Mitt Romney had it right when he was running for president…given the right environment, they’ll self deport. Crack down on employers hard who want to hire them and pay them under the table. Make it easier to get rid of them once they are captured and proven illegal. Stop it with the stupid catch and release bulls~~~ when they just disappear and skip their court dates. Instead we got idiots here fighting to give them college educations, healthcare, and other benefits…and then we can’t figure out why they keep coming.
Trump and his actions have not been anti Globalist in most regards as his Policies fall right in line with them a majority of the time. The most anti Globalist thing he has done so far is his beginning of drawing the Troops out of a place they should have never been to begin with. But for foreign policy it is clear he is in line with the Israel and Saudi Arabian crowd ignoring their crimes and supporting them which means Trump supports a racist state and a Theocratic state.
I think you are a little confused. A globalist wouldn’t be in favor of a strong, sovereign Israel, or ignoring crimes(assuming your talking about the Khashoggi murder) of Saudi Arabia…they’d be all in everyone’s business because the end game for a globalist is a one world government. A globalist wouldn’t be at the UN going against the grain like the Trump administration has done, they’d be part of the club with a big grin on their face slapping each other on the ass for a job well done every time they pass some resolution. A globalist wouldn’t be s~~~ting on trade agreements, starting trade wars, and raising tariffs. I think the Trump insult you are looking for, as favored by the mainstream media, is that he is a nationalist lol.
As far as racist…what is one racist policy Trump supports? In fact since Trump has taken office, minority unemployment levels are at record lows and their median incomes are rising. That is much better for minority communities than the record numbers on welfare Obama gave us. If you research it a bit you’ll find Trump’s approval ratings among blacks has actually gone up in the time he’s been in office. Its like more and more of them are realizing he’s not actually a racist, just heavily slandered by a biased media.
Theocratic state? I just have to ask…do you even know what a theocracy is? This country is less religious than it has ever been…Trump isn’t trying to proclaim himself a god or make himself a supreme ruler in the name of god, or claim he’s ruling in the name of god. I’m all for an intelligent conversation but making claims like this aren’t even close to grounded in reality.
Populism based solely on the Racism against those who are not English speakers or who communicate in in different Languages. Of course alot of Trump voters were not Racists and voted because they thought that Trump would keep their jobs here but the real die hard MAGA fans tend to be Racist.
Wanting secured borders and limited immigration isn’t racist. I don’t know anyone claiming we shouldn’t have any immigrants, and a good chunk of have current living relatives, or have met relatives that were first generation immigrants, its more along the lines of we shouldn’t allow tens of millions to just come across our border illegally and grant them legal status for it.
Look at the recent caravans Trump blocked from coming in…do you know who is complaining about them more than anybody right now? Mexico is, because Mexico is stuck dealing with them. Are all the brown people in Mexico p~~~ed off because the caravans are made up of brown people? Of course not, it has nothing to do with race. But now let’s move all those people 5 miles north on the the American side of the border and its a race issue. Stop being so blind.
2018-12-23 at 12:26 AM#881159You are outing yourself to being the supporter of eco-tyranny I suspected you to be
You could state whatever nonsense you like the facts still remain that Climate change is a real and dangerous threat and i can get peer review sources to prove it (but of course the Scientists must be paid off by the Globalists so id doubt you would accept the Science).
while rewarding people to do nothing but cause the working class suffering.
Alot of Welfare payments actually goes to the Working class because the Companies do not pay People a living wage forcing them to rely on Government assistance. You can work 40 hours a week and not survive even as just a Single Person.
You have not provided any links in your post to sources. I also copies the pages as proof.
I have mentioned the sources a few f~~~ing times already but here is the last time i will mention them (because you can’t get it through your thick skull. First is the Social Democratic Secular Talk, second is Reason.com a Libertarian website which has posted things against Trump (not all that uncommon whenever Trump supports the NAP violation of Torture). Hell if you wanna be fast you can just go to it through my comment (you highlight reason.com and then you go to it.
The regulations gave social media companies, ISPs, and online companies more power while taking more power from the people
Explain it then and provide evidence of it.
That was already federal law passed by congress and signed by a president decades ago
If a President can get away with not doing it then that is the far better option then inciting more hatred and violence but outside of that how does this benefit America and it’s People?
The only person that signed the “deal” with Iran was then Secretary of State John Kerry, and it was not a ratified deal
The thing with the bill is that it prevented Iran from obtaining Nukes and using it’s Nuclear capabilities to make Nukes. And one Globalist thing about your position here is that they would just love a war with Iran to create an even greater Israel (it is what happened with Iraq and places around it.
but they refuse to give President Trump the $5 billion he asked for. That was an insult by Congress and President Trump is no longer going to take it.
Yes and instead of reasoning he shuts down the Government in a tantrum.
President Trump was a victim of wiretapping by the government. When President Trump learned that Trump Towers NYC was wiretapped,
Actually alot more People have been wiretapped then just Trump so it is not that special even Obama was reported to have been wiretapped by the Government.
he has every right to keep his documents private.
The thing here is we are dealing with a Public leader who’s Policies effect the future of the Country and even the World. So yes he should have to show is tax return just like how Obama was pushed into showing his Birth Certificate (one of the biggest Conservative complaints was him not doing it meaning he must be a Kenyan Muslim).
This I have no heard. What incident are you talking about.
Here is a source you should trust more then others.
Wow, that is out of right field. A device that allows rapid-fire with no control should be banned.
No as you are against the second amendment and freedom by doing this. The logic of yours is the Military can have Machine guns but the Citizens cannot have them in a legal manner and that is evading the times it would be needed for them (like of Hillary Clinton declared herself Queen of America or decided to take your guns away).
So you claim your sources are the pro-1% media, whom you claim to oppose in some of your statements.
It depends if the sources are backed up by evidence or not. I mention that of course the so called MSM is not my main source of information however if they post something that can be shown to be true that which can be shown is correct.
So, he paid the blackmail but with a nondisclosure agreement.
Which means he enables Terrorism and gave the media a even bigger show due to paying off People.
So, your primary language is spanish. I am guessing you are not native to the U.S.
The US has no primary Language unless you are into racist bulls~~~. I am a US Citizen based on Documents such as a Birth Certificate however that does not mean i cannot speak Spanish or communicate mostly in it (aside when forced to speak English or forced to disprove People like you).
Who do you think pays for all these programs?
Via taxation.
Are you going to try your, “the non-whites were there first”, claim on Britain?
No as you are intentionally dishonest to state that, English and Brit is the same i am not claiming non British People were Native to England (but that after Brexit the Government will not kick out non Brits as what a real Nationalist action would entail).
MAGA supporters are the populist, pro-gun ownership, traditionalist, anti-media, anti-monopolist, workers revolution people’s movement that Karl Marx wrote about
Populism based solely on the Racism against those who are not English speakers or who communicate in in different Languages. Of course alot of Trump voters were not Racists and voted because they thought that Trump would keep their jobs here but the real die hard MAGA fans tend to be Racist. When it comes to guns you are fine with it except in restrictions such as bump stocks and others which are you fine with banning. Traditionalism is a part of Cuckservativsm with it being a bulls~~~ sham not akin to what worked in the past. When it comes to anti media they are against big sources regardless of evidence and for smaller more bulls~~~ sources.
When it comes to Monopolies they are for it as they are against Regulations which would restrict them. For the Workers f~~~ no to this as they are fine with keeping the Minimum wage the same or cutting it completely while reducing the benefits and protections workers receive and breaking up Unions but with Communism, Private Companies by definition cannot exist (they are not owned by the People nor the State).
So yes you are full of bulls~~~ once more.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
2018-12-22 at 11:30 PM#881158I want to fight for lower taxes and less government spending
And i fight for higher Government taxes on the rich and to redirect Government spending what ways that actually benefit People (excessive Military spending, sending the money to Israel or Saudi Arabia etc) do not help the actual People and to force those in power to adopt these Policies and stick to them (aka the Guy who ran as a populist but doing s~~~ gets voted out in the next election).
and now people are arguing that paying over 1/3 of your income to the federal government isn’t enough? Its insane.
Actually that really depends on many factors rather then just 1/3 of your income going to Government. Often Progressive tax systems state X money over Y is taxed at a higher rate, and then over Z etc.
Yeah we’d be doing so much better right now if we had granted tens of millions of illegals amnesty and threw them all on welfare
The thing about the Illegals is the plan of deporting 11 million People is an impossible feat which will violate the rights of Citizens in the process. So legal Citizens in the Illegal looking camp (like Mexicans or others from Latin America) will get frisked on the basis of Race even when they are Innocent. And the best analogy i can make to it is George Bush after 9/11 punishing Citizens for the action of a couple Terrorists by further stripping away the rights of Citizens. In order to try to scope out all Terror (which is not occuring from the Government to the People) you need to spy on Citizens who have committed nor suspected of committing a crime.
Can you please further elaborate on this point? I’m curious how you came to this conclusion.
Trump and his actions have not been anti Globalist in most regards as his Policies fall right in line with them a majority of the time. The most anti Globalist thing he has done so far is his beginning of drawing the Troops out of a place they should have never been to begin with. But for foreign policy it is clear he is in line with the Israel and Saudi Arabian crowd ignoring their crimes and supporting them which means Trump supports a racist state and a Theocratic state.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
2018-12-22 at 10:33 AM#881090Where is the “65 bad things” list you claim against President Trump?
Puerto Rico is one of many places where Tax evasion did (or does) occur. The tax breaks you mention are for setting up your Business in Puerto Rico and not just the transfer of Wealth that you do not want to disclose as it would be taxed in the States. And with Puerto Rico you also forget the Jones act which means products shipped to Puerto Rico must be on US owned and operated ships along with the fact that Puerto Rico is considered a US territory.
More splitting hairs.
Obama did his best to keep oil companies from drilling in oceans and parts of the U.S
A positive thing.
You are outing yourself to being the supporter of eco-tyranny I suspected you to be. You are an elitists whom believes everyone who actually works and pays taxes to keep civilization should do without while rewarding people to do nothing but cause the working class suffering.
You mentioned CNN, i don’t mention CNN so it is irrelevant, i listed my sources both of which are against Trump none of which are considered the mainstream media. They are not Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. CBS. the New York times, the Associated Press etc. Now since i mentioned my sources (about 3 times now i believe) what are yours?
I checked. You have not provided any links in your post to sources. I also copies the pages as proof.
On the other hand, both Beer and myself have.
The end of net neutrality, removing privacy rules on the Internet (which means ISP’s can now sell your data on the Internet without your consent and by data i don’t mean credit card information).
Did you even read the “Net Neutrality” Executive Orders and Bill by Obama. The regulations gave social media companies, ISPs, and online companies more power while taking more power from the people.
His moving of the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem,
That was already federal law passed by congress and signed by a president decades ago. Just no President had the guts to do it. President Trump campaigned on doing so and so he did it. President Trump likes to keep his promises.
his end of the Iran deal,
Handing over billions of dollars in unmarked pallets of U.S. cash and giving other favors by the U.S. in exchange for hostages is extortion. The only person that signed the “deal” with Iran was then Secretary of State John Kerry, and it was not a ratified deal so had no teeth for the U.S., as for Iran, no government official in power signed that deal.
he is probably gonna shut down the Government by Christmas,
Congress loads the budget with all the pork they wanted, but they refuse to give President Trump the $5 billion he asked for. That was an insult by Congress and President Trump is no longer going to take it.
his pick of a man fine with NSA or at least Warrantless spying to the supreme court along with the Judges desire to get rid of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
President Trump was a victim of wiretapping by the government. When President Trump learned that Trump Towers NYC was wiretapped, he has not been in that building since.
As for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, that organization was a crafted by Senator Elisabeth Warren and designed as a government shake down organizations to force banks to funnel money into the democrat coffers. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was so corrupt that the organization was designed not to have ANY OVERSIGHT by Congress, the White House, nor the Courts. The Courts finally decided the CFPB was under oversight of the White House.
His actions which support fracking,
People whom actually pay for gas and goods supporting fracking.
his refusal to show his tax returns.
Those are private documents. And given those opposing him have already denied him attorney-client privilege, he has every right to keep his documents private.
his first raid in office which killed an American girl.
This I have no heard. What incident are you talking about.
His desire to ban bump stocks etc.
Wow, that is out of right field. A device that allows rapid-fire with no control should be banned.
Each of these can easily be looked up on the Internet and i have mentioned sources against Trump (which are Globalist media) before
So you claim your sources are the pro-1% media, whom you claim to oppose in some of your statements.
You are all over the place.
Of course you push this Neo con bulls~~~ which brings up that Trump met up with the Dictator of North Korea yet did you (or will you) bitch about that fact?
Do you even know what a Neo-con is?
MAGA/Trump Supporters are non Neo-Cons. Never-Trumps are Neo-cons/Neo-liberals.
Also, I supported that meeting in Singapore, and I am happen that meeting went well.
also what is better improving relations even with Countries we don’t agree with or worsening them potentially causing another war in which many People will die in just so the US can elect either a puppet Government or create a new threat (ISIS did not exist till after Saddam was forced out of Office.
Here you go against. It was both Bushes, the Clintons, and Obama that got the U.S. into the global police mess.
President Trump has been trying to get the U.S. out of this mess and is met with resistance by the same media you believe.
President Trump is pulling out all U.S. troops from Syria and half the U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
I mean the laws of Donald Trump, the s~~~ he actually pushes you f~~~tard,
The only laws President Trump has supported are to protect and benefit U.S. workers whom have been shafted for decades by everyone else.
He as President could at least push for a change to get Social Media Companies to support freedom of speech yet he has done jacks~~~ so far about it.
President Trump and his supporters are the primary VICTIMS censorship of Social Media Companies.
I said on Social Media don’t throw a red herring here (i did not talk about University).
Social Media and University dogma go hand in hand.
Yes this is true however if no such rigging occurred Bernie Sanders would have likely won the election akin to Obama in 08.
President Trump versus Bernie would have been an interesting election.
Even if it was not an intentionally crime committed Trump still f~~~ed up.
President Trump stated to do the payments in a legal way.
Even if Trump paid the hush money out of pocket you don’t pay that as that is an admission of guilt.
You truly are ignorant to believe that people settle out of court because they are guilty. For most they settle to not be bankrupted. For President Trump, the blackmail was on the eve of the 2016 Nov election and it did not matter if it was true or not, the fascist media would have screamed that it was true. So, he paid the blackmail but with a nondisclosure agreement.
There is a word of what that is called where i am from and that is Mierda (aka s~~~).
So, your primary language is spanish. I am guessing you are not native to the U.S.
Nor my plan, nor Bernies nor other Social Democrats have People seizing all the wealth you dishonest liar.
Who do you think pays for all these programs? We do and we got nothing for but hate and disrespect. The MGTOW movement is built on this fact.
It is called a progressive tax system which has different brackets and taxes which affect all money made above certain points (as different percents none of which takes all of the money).
But, you point out the 1% have tax shelters so it is only the working class that gets screwed.
But since the most popular view is Bernie Sanders which that (despite him being called a Socialist or a Commie) does not confiscate all of the Wealth above even the highest points.
After Hillary screwed over Bernie in the 2016 DNC Primary, Bernie took a bribe to stay quiet. Do not fool yourself, Bernie would sell you out and those you care for in a heartbeat.
You are full of s~~~ buddy.
Using the same insult twice in a post shows a lack of tact.
Except that Maga is all in line with the Globalists,
I am with Beer. I want to know how you drew that conclusion. You admit that globalism
Brexit will still remain in line with them (it is not like English People now kick out all non Brits).
Are you going to try your, “the non-whites were there first”, claim on Britain?
That does not exactly work.
Brazil has a typical right wing puppet, the yellow vest movement began as a rebellion against putting the burden of climate change on the Workers instead of the Companies.
Brazil’s government is typically eco-fascist socialist, but the people there were finally able to elect a populist leader.
It depends on the specifics in other parts of Europe and Canada has more right wingers but will they actually swing the Country?
I see you are ignoring the populist Yellow Vest movement.
Now to clarify concerning MAGA supporters. MAGA supporters are the populist, pro-gun ownership, traditionalist, anti-media, anti-monopolist, workers revolution people’s movement that Karl Marx wrote about. The MAGA supporters even support the people of other nations having similar political movements. In other words, MAGA supporters are the True Communists.
2018-12-21 at 11:06 PM#881033a controversial corporate tax break that helped spark an exodus from the island and sent its economy into reverse.”
Puerto Rico is one of many places where Tax evasion did (or does) occur. The tax breaks you mention are for setting up your Business in Puerto Rico and not just the transfer of Wealth that you do not want to disclose as it would be taxed in the States. And with Puerto Rico you also forget the Jones act which means products shipped to Puerto Rico must be on US owned and operated ships along with the fact that Puerto Rico is considered a US territory.
This makes products more expensive and reduces free trade as Puerto Rico cannot freely trade with it’s Neighbors.
Obama did his best to keep oil companies from drilling in oceans and parts of the U.S
A positive thing.
That is the tip of the iceberg.
You mentioned CNN, i don’t mention CNN so it is irrelevant, i listed my sources both of which are against Trump none of which are considered the mainstream media. They are not Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. CBS. the New York times, the Associated Press etc. Now since i mentioned my sources (about 3 times now i believe) what are yours?
List those 65 “bad things” and provide a source. I provided a source, now it is your turn.
The end of net neutrality, removing privacy rules on the Internet (which means ISP’s can now sell your data on the Internet without your consent and by data i don’t mean credit card information). His moving of the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, his end of the Iran deal, he is probably gonna shut down the Government by Christmas, his pick of a man fine with NSA or at least Warrantless spying to the supreme court along with the Judges desire to get rid of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. His actions which support fracking, his refusal to show his tax returns. his first raid in office which killed an American girl. His desire to ban bump stocks etc.
Each of these can easily be looked up on the Internet and i have mentioned sources against Trump (which are Globalist media) before
Obama went on his apology tour to publicly bow to every major dictator in the world
Of course you push this Neo con bulls~~~ which brings up that Trump met up with the Dictator of North Korea yet did you (or will you) bitch about that fact? also what is better improving relations even with Countries we don’t agree with or worsening them potentially causing another war in which many People will die in just so the US can elect either a puppet Government or create a new threat (ISIS did not exist till after Saddam was forced out of Office.
“Trump’s law”? What law is this? Provide the name and link to the law.
I mean the laws of Donald Trump, the s~~~ he actually pushes you f~~~tard, He as President could at least push for a change to get Social Media Companies to support freedom of speech yet he has done jacks~~~ so far about it.
Education Secretary Betsy Devos has already had regulations implemented that give people on colleges more freedom of speech and better access to their due process rights.
I said on Social Media don’t throw a red herring here (i did not talk about University).
Hillary rigged the DNC primary for her to win. Wikileaks and other sources confirmed that.
Yes this is true however if no such rigging occurred Bernie Sanders would have likely won the election akin to Obama in 08.
he was the victim of blackmail, and paying off a blackmailer with your own money in a traceable way is not a crime
Even if it was not an intentionally crime committed Trump still f~~~ed up. Even if Trump paid the hush money out of pocket you don’t pay that as that is an admission of guilt.
of seizing all the wealth of the people
There is a word of what that is called where i am from and that is Mierda (aka s~~~). Nor my plan, nor Bernies nor other Social Democrats have People seizing all the wealth you dishonest liar. It is called a progressive tax system which has different brackets and taxes which affect all money made above certain points (as different percents none of which takes all of the money). But since the most popular view is Bernie Sanders which that (despite him being called a Socialist or a Commie) does not confiscate all of the Wealth above even the highest points.
You are full of s~~~ buddy.
MAGA movement to Brexit, to the Brazilian presidential election, to the Yellow Vest movement of France and the rest of Europe, even parts of Canada
Except that Maga is all in line with the Globalists, Brexit will still remain in line with them (it is not like English People now kick out all non Brits). Brazil has a typical right wing puppet, the yellow vest movement began as a rebellion against putting the burden of climate change on the Workers instead of the Companies. It depends on the specifics in other parts of Europe and Canada has more right wingers but will they actually swing the Country?
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
2018-12-21 at 9:50 PM#881029It’s amazing how that account went up to 13 million dollars in 5 days. I wish I could GoFund my car payments. ; ^ ) They way I see it is: You can spend $10,000,000,000 to build a wall, or spend the same amount of money to provide welfare and government services for impoverished people who cross the U.S. border illegally (or arrive here on a travel visa and never leave). They know that once they get here, they can have a bunch of babies and we, the taxpayers, have to pay for their kids to go to school and get healthcare. But they don’t contribute income taxes—unless the federal government gives them a tax id number while they await their amnesty status.
I live in California, and soon-to-be Governor Gavin Newsom wants a sanctuary state and healthcare for all—including non-citizens. So that means: if you live in a s~~~hole country, come on over and get pregnant and somebody (with taxable income) will pay the hospital bill when you birth your Americanized baby. And you can count on politicians like (Oakland Mayor) Libby Shaaf to warn you if federal immigration officials are about to raid your workplace! If you’re a U.S. citizen, and a fugitive, you’ve got police officials who are eager to arrest you and make you pay all sorts of fines because you have a Social Security Number and can be traced. However, if you ran across the border, and ICE officials are looking for you, you’ll get a pass. Why? Because President Trump is a big bully. Welcome to the People’s Republic of California.
California already has 39,000,000 residents. When you add more illegal aliens to the population, you’ll have a budget crisis if you’re planning to have “universal healthcare” for all. We have to let the children of illegal aliens into the public schools and that means more money spent on materials, staff, free lunches, etc. Our public school budget is about $52 billion dollars! Imagine how much money could be saved if these idiot politicians would let the federal government deport everyone who doesn’t belong here. It bewilders me to see politicians putting so much energy into making life easier for a group of people WHO CANNOT VOTE and don’t pay state income taxes.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
2018-12-21 at 12:03 PM#880965I think i stated he will as in he will raise taxes on the poorer People as that is part of the tax cut plan if his policy sticks over the next decade as the middle class and poorer tax cuts are limited unlike the tax cuts for the rich which are stated to last beyond that. Just give us a Republican president for the next decade or so and the tax cuts will stop for the poorer among us.
Nobody is raising taxes on the poor, the poor aren’t paying any federal income taxes as is. Did you miss that part about almost half the country doesn’t pay any federal income taxes. Besides if they charged them all a 100 dollar citizenship fee or something, I’d be ok with it, they should have to pay something.
The point of a Progressive tax system is the more someone makes the higher the tax rate is
Why do you think I specifically mentioned the uber rich paying mostly capital gains taxes?
If you go to work and make 250k, your top tax bracket ends up being 35%. If you have a billion dollars floating around the stock market and make 100 million in capital gains next year, your top tax bracket ends up being 20%. The richest don’t have the highest tax rates. Buffet, Gates, Bezos, etc…their salaries are a joke, its all capital gains for them.
I know what a progressive tax system is, but apparently you don’t realize we don’t actually have one.
Ah no as even the most boring Centrist Democrat would have done a better job then Trump, the only one i personally could see doing worse would be Ted Cruz.
Hillary would have done a better job?
Pretty easy to do if you have a real populist left candidate running for Office who pushes policies People actually want instead of bills which take away your internet privacy rights, deregulate, hurt the climate and give giant tax cuts to the top 1 percent. If the Democrats are not complete f~~~heads in 2020 having a Bernie Sanders (or someone akin to him) run would beat out Donald Trump and sure as hell beat out Mike Pence as Mikey was a pick to appeal to Conservative Christians and you need more then them to win (like the Workers, the young People, those in the more Democratic states, swing states, the rust belt etc).
If the democrats aren’t complete f~~~heads? Come on dude…they couldn’t wait to make Pelosi speaker again, and look how hard they are propping up Ocasio-Cortez as their new poster child. They might win the next election, I can’t read the future, but they aren’t going to stop being complete f~~~heads in the near future.
2018-12-21 at 9:42 AM#880945Show me that part of the bill and then show me is what is being done to those who have used those shelters?
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/26/heres-how-an-obscure-tax-change-sank-puerto-ricos-economy.html
“That fiscal mess, partly the result of a prolonged downturn that lingered long after the rest of the U.S. had recovered from the Great Recession, has its roots in the repeal of a controversial corporate tax break that helped spark an exodus from the island and sent its economy into reverse.”
No i am not simply because i could argue since lower Gas prices under Obama could be considered to be caused by him in some way just as you mention how Trump is tied with the recent cut in Gas prices. And outside of that i can also argue that Gas prices was a natural fall in price would Trump would love to gloat over but was occurring naturally with or without Donald Trump (Trump could still be in his New York high rise the price would probably remain around the same rate).
A Secret Agent MGTOW pointed out early on this forum, Obama did his best to keep oil companies from drilling in oceans and parts of the U.S. Obama was to ignorant to go after Oil Shale.
This is either ignorance or intentionally bulls~~~ as my sources i mentioned are not mainstream media in anyway.
Here, read this: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/spiegel-journalist-who-faked-stories-committed-journalistic-fraud-grand-scale
That is the tip of the iceberg.
Finally a good thing after 65 bad things if i grant you the argument here
List those 65 “bad things” and provide a source. I provided a source, now it is your turn.
The treason against Obama was evident and clear yet you whine that People do not fall in line with Trump even when he has been a criminal and a shady f~~~ for all of his life. Now what is your definition of Treason?
No. The treason was evident when Obama went on his apology tour to publicly bow to every major dictator in the world, he continued all the police state tactics of the Bush Administration, used military to invade more nations, he over saw trillions and trillions of dollars printed and given to banks and corporations, he helped passed massive government regulations and taxes that people could not afford, and he mocked the hard working U.S. citizens at every chance he had.
That is the black and white fallacy which is clearly untrue but of course you probably will rationalize why someone like a Social Democrat or other versions of the left wing actually don’t exist because Politics is on a spectrum.
I follow the money. Unlike you I do not follow lies. I verify what I read from different sources.
Trump’s laws still permit the blocking of free speech on Social media
“Trump’s law”? What law is this? Provide the name and link to the law.
The only thing President Trump and his allies have been doing is supporting freedom of speech.
Education Secretary Betsy Devos has already had regulations implemented that give people on colleges more freedom of speech and better access to their due process rights.
Nothing is confirmed in this world especially when we magically had Donald Trump win the Republican ticket
Now this is direct fraudulent projection of what Hillary did to Bernie onto President Trump.
President Trump had 16 competitors in the GOP primary and Hillary. Hillary rigged the DNC primary for her to win. Wikileaks and other sources confirmed that.
don’t know if Bernie is running but even a Person like him would beat Donald Trump.
Keep underestimating President Trump.
The Democrats being criminal does not make Donald Trump a non criminal in any manner.
There you go with more fraudulent projection. President Trump has been investigated for three years. The only things that have come out is he was the victim of blackmail, and paying off a blackmailer with your own money in a traceable way is not a crime. The only “crimes” tied to him have been proven to be entrapment by the government officials that allied with Hillary.
The oil companies themselves lowered prices by increasing supply via shale mining/drilling. Particularly in 2015-2016 when shale oiloutput was at peak.
Actually, oil output is climbing. For every middle eastern nation that cuts output, there is an U.S. drilling oil shale site build and pumping out.
Oil Shall technology has reached the point that they can turn a profit of around $30 a barrel. Right now
Oil prices are dropping like a rock at the pump. When oil prices drop, the price of goods drop. This is called deflation.
The reason the stock market is in free-fall is because the deflation is causing futures and speculation market to go sideways.
A lot of rich people had their money in speculation markets and they caught paying the difference. This has caused them to cash out other stocks. This is called a correction.
The stock market will settle out and be fine.
Meanwhile the working class of main street will do fine with falling prices for products.
This here shows regulation providing innovation because the fact is the oil Companies will drill wherever permitted to regardless of the climate and to push for the betterment of the Climate (by obtaining cleaner ways of energy).
It must p~~~ you off that people are openly resisting your tyrannical policies of seizing all the wealth of the people and enslaving the people on the false claim doing so will “save the environment.”
And people are waking up from the MAGA movement to Brexit, to the Brazilian presidential election, to the Yellow Vest movement of France and the rest of Europe, even parts of Canada.
Things are changing and for the better for the people, not the globalists.
2018-12-21 at 9:07 AM#880940Whether we are talking about alimony or child support, I do not think the government should have the ability to force payment from one person to another AND tax that money.
I agree. Unfortunately, the government double downed on this with Obamacare, the Supreme Court ruled government can force people to hand money directly over to corporations under penalty of government mandated punishment.
We are lucky that President Trump is in office because it is likely there will reach a point that there will be a revolt over government mandating that the people must submit to being debt slaves to the banks and corporations or go to prison.
2018-12-21 at 5:06 AM#880922Is Trump perfect? No. But is he part of the “Establishment” group of life long corrupt politicians who go to Washington and get rich? No, he earned his money – like it or not.
The Washington politicians made their money off of our backs and through corrupt kickbacks and lobby money. I’ll take Trump over non-businessmen who make a career of fleecing us and doing nothing to better our lot in life.
I’m also for equality in taxation. Don’t penalize me for doing well. Tax me the same % whether I make $40k or $400k. Why should a person who makes more money pay a larger percentage? Unfair.
Don’t believe the news agencies. There is no “news” anymore, only rants and commentary. The libs control the news outlets and daily we get a barrage of anti-Trump trash talk.
2018-12-20 at 10:04 PM#880879One of the changes in the Trump taxcuts was that Puerto Rico and other domains of the U.S. outside of the U.S. States cannot be used as tax shelters.
Show me that part of the bill and then show me is what is being done to those who have used those shelters? is there any Imprisonment? arrests? fines? a demanding of the Caymen Islands and those alike to give all of the tax haven money back to where it belongs? or it this at very most an appeal to make an unpopular bill slightly more popular?
Now, you are just splitting hairs.
No i am not simply because i could argue since lower Gas prices under Obama could be considered to be caused by him in some way just as you mention how Trump is tied with the recent cut in Gas prices. And outside of that i can also argue that Gas prices was a natural fall in price would Trump would love to gloat over but was occurring naturally with or without Donald Trump (Trump could still be in his New York high rise the price would probably remain around the same rate).
It seems you believe the progressive fake media
This is either ignorance or intentionally bulls~~~ as my sources i mentioned are not mainstream media in anyway. Secular Talk is a left wing resource which is not CNN, or Fox News or the like (sure as hell not mainstream as Fox News is) the second source is a right wing leaning Libertarian site. Now tell me how at least the second one is Progessive fake media (the first one is Liberal but more Liberal then sources like CNN are).
President Trump is supporting prison reform.
Finally a good thing after 65 bad things if i grant you the argument here and Trump is not pushing for some bulls~~~ that the Globalists would just love to enjoy that is in favor of locking up more People forever.
No. The treason against President Trump is open and clear.
The treason against Obama was evident and clear yet you whine that People do not fall in line with Trump even when he has been a criminal and a shady f~~~ for all of his life. Now what is your definition of Treason?
There is no such thing as “centrist democrat”. Democrats are either corporate globalists. Or, democrats are fascists posing as communists.
That is the black and white fallacy which is clearly untrue but of course you probably will rationalize why someone like a Social Democrat or other versions of the left wing actually don’t exist because Politics is on a spectrum. Now if i was to argue in your manner id state there are only 2 types of Conservatives either Fascist Neo Nazi Corporatists or retarded Southern Hicks id be arguing the same as you are and id be wrong
But even better then that how could you be correct? if you state such bulls~~~ you need to prove it.
whom have been censoring tens of millions of U.S. citizens for daring to be Pro-U.S.
Trump’s laws still permit the blocking of free speech on Social media something he could have tackled if he had wanted too by simply putting in regulation that puts giant companies and requires them to tolerate free speech on their platforms.
The DNC already changed the rules so Bernie cannot run on a democrat ticket for president.
Nothing is confirmed in this world especially when we magically had Donald Trump win the Republican ticket and that is ignoring that there are plans in place at the moment to make the Democratic party more Liberal. I don’t know if Bernie is running but even a Person like him would beat Donald Trump. So we will have to see the future but i hope Donald Trump at least loses.
You project what the democrats are doing on President Trump
The Democrats being criminal does not make Donald Trump a non criminal in any manner.
Now for a quick point for the other guy
The oil companies themselves lowered prices by increasing supply via shale mining/drilling. Particularly in 2015-2016 when shale oiloutput was at peak.
This here shows regulation providing innovation because the fact is the oil Companies will drill wherever permitted to regardless of the climate and to push for the betterment of the Climate (by obtaining cleaner ways of energy).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
2018-12-20 at 9:24 PM#880876The prison reform should release the criminals into South American countries. It’s only fair.
Trump had tight prenups with all his wives. What he should be doing is taking the clauses of his prenups, and making them law.
I have lost my faith in Trump. He virtue signaled he was going to be a ruthless dictator, and instead has been a puppy dog rolling over every time. I am with Coulter on this. I can only make so many excuses for the man, before we have to just look at his accomplishments, which are nothing.
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