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    That writer has his head jammed up his ass!

    The culture has changed, the only thing relations~~~s have to offer a man is s~~~!

    We discovered a life outside worshiping gynocentrism, serving its insanity, having our logic legally trumped in the biggest power and property grab in human history!

    No, we’ve stopped biting, we’re not the disposable males their society has legally made us out to be.

    They call us selfish because we don’t sacrifice ourselves on the alter of feminism.

    We walked away and still they want to hurt us, enslave us, make us mutually responsible for all their mistakes!

    Shoulder their misery? Subsidize their mistakes? Raise their bastard broods like it’s our duty?

    Let them starve to f~~~ing death for all I care!

    Joetech
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    Trump Did Not Convince North Korea to Ditch Nukes. China Did. That’s like saying Nixon didn’t get us out of Viet Nam, Kissinger did. But, who sent Kissinger? Trump engaged the North Koreans, the South Koreans, China AND Japan. That’s why all this is happening.

    lol, no matter what Mike Whitney thinks none of this would be taking place with out Donald J Trump.

    Kim is not his father. Trump is a master negotiator, and this proves it.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #804673
    IMickey503
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    This needs to be spread far and wide.

    Too bad “family” courts don’t give a s~~~ about dads.
    They only even pretend to care about the kids.

    As long as it gives jobs to the lazy state employees and they get incentives for more money, then it’s just going to keep going.

    Damn, if ONLY trump did not sign in VAWA again. Man, that was the biggest blow this year as far as I am concerned.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    Bstoff
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    Yumbo obviously has a lot of intelligence and is very good at finding and sharing it.
    Like you guys, I disagree, at least with parts of this stuff, but he makes valid points.
    I don’t see the big deal in celebrating Trump for his involvement in this historic event that hasn’t budged for 70 years.
    The fact that this is occurring after 70 years, and along with Trump’s tactics, tells me it’s not just a China development thing.

    Love him or hate him, positive change is taking place; and Trump has been a dominant role in the changes.

    Experienced
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    lol, no matter what Mike Whitney thinks none of this would be taking place with out Donald J Trump.

    Agreed and I thought I pulled up mgtow.com not msn.com.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    743 roadmaster
    743 roadmaster
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    lol, no matter what Mike Whitney thinks none of this would be taking place with out Donald J Trump.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    Y_
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    Trump Did Not Convince North Korea to Ditch Nukes. China Did. [1]
    Mike Whitney
    The Unz Review
    April 30, 2018

    Mike Whitney writes on politics and finances and lives in Washington state. He is a regular contributor to many respected alternative news sites. He can be reached at feriewhitney@msn.com

    Donald Trump thinks his “maximum pressure” campaign persuaded North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program. But it’s a bunch of baloney. The reason Kim Jong-un is planning to denuclearize is because China adamantly opposes nuclear weapons on the peninsula.

    That’s the whole deal in a nutshell. China, who is North Korea’s biggest trading partner, gave Kim an ultimatum: Ditch the nukes or face long-term economic strangulation. Kim very wisely chose the former option, which is to say, he backed down.

    The situation in North Korea is really quite bleak. Consider, for example, this recent piece in a United Nations periodical titled “The 5 most under-reported humanitarian crises that are happening right now”. Heading the list is this blurb on North Korea:

      “….what has been drastically underreported in the last year is that unprecedented number of people who are going hungry. The UN estimates that 70 percent of the population, or 18 million people, are food-insecure and reliant on government aid. To make things worse, last year North Korea experienced its worst drought in 16 years, exacerbating an already dire food shortage. With tight control of its borders keeping out aid organizations and journalists, it’s almost impossible to capture how many are actually receiving the urgent food aid they need.” (U.N. Dispatch)

    Unfortunately, famine and drought are just the tip of the iceberg. The economic sanctions have added a whole new layer to the North’s misery, in fact, they have brought the economy to its knees. Pyongyang might have been able to muddle through had Beijing not joined the international blockade, but once China agreed to participate, the North’s fate was sealed.

    In the last year, the DPRK’s currency has dropped precipitously, the country’s import-export trade has been slashed by half, and the battered economy has plunged into a deep slump. The problem is almost entirely attributable to China’s tightening sanctions regime which has effectively cut off the flow of capital and vital resources to the North. In order to grasp how overly dependent the DPRK is on China, take a look at this:

      “Trade with China represents 57% of North Korea’s imports and 42% of its exports.

      In February 2017, China restricted all coal imports from North Korea until 2018. This is considered to be extremely harmful to the North Korean economy, as coal was the top export of the nation, and China was their top trading partner…

      On 28 September 2017… China ordered all North Korean companies operating in China to cease operations within 120 days. By January 2018 customs statistics showed that trade between the two countries had fallen to the lowest level recorded.

      On 7 May 2013, Bank of China, China’s biggest foreign exchange bank and other Chinese banks closed the account of North Korea’s main foreign exchange bank.

      On 21 February 2016 China quietly ended financial support of North Korea without any media publicity. It is reported to be due to the fallout of relations between the two governments….”(Wikipedia)

    China Sanctions Summary:

    1. China destroyed the North’s import and export trade, including the North’s primary export, coal.
    2. China shut down all the DPRK’s companies operating in China. (terminating the recycling of revenues back to the North.)
    3. China cut off access to foreign banking. (and, thus, foreign investment)
    4. China stopped providing any financial support for the North.

    What other country could withstand this type of economic strangulation by its biggest trading partner? None of this has anything to do with Trump’s “maximum pressure” campaign which really had no effect onKim’s decision at all. Denuclearization is all China’s doing.

    China put a gun to Kim’s head and simply waited for him to cave in. Which he did. He very wisely chose the path of least resistance: Capitulation.

    The question is: What did Kim get in return?

    Before we answer that, we need to understand that China-DPRK relations have been strained for more than a year, dating back to early 2017 when China joined the US effort to impose sanctions on the North.

    The Korean News Agency sharply rebuked China for its disloyalty saying, “(China) is dancing to the tune of the US while defending its hostile behavior with excuses that (the sanctions) were not meant to hurt the North Korean people, but to check its nuclear program.”

    While the North’s anger is understandable, it’s worth pointing out that Beijing has always opposed Kim’s nuclear weapons programs, in fact, in 2016, (long before bilateral relations soured) China’s Foreign Minister openly condemned the DPRK’s behavior saying, “We strongly urge the DPRK side to remain committed to its denuclearization commitment, and stop taking any actions that would make the situation worse.”

    The warning was followed a year later by joint sanctions aimed at forcing Kim to give up his nukes. To Beijing’s credit, the goal was never to punish or humiliate the North, but to strengthen regional security by reducing access to nuclear weapons. Bottom line: China has acted responsibly throughout.

    In March 2018, Kim made an unannounced visit to General Secretary Xi Jinping in Beijing. Kim was given the red carpet treatment for four days while the two leaders huddled and worked out their strategy for denuclearization in the context of a broader economic revitalization program aimed at integrating the peninsula with the rest of the continent.

    Very little is known about the 4-day confab in Beijing, but it’s obvious that Kim was encouraged to normalize relations with his counterpart (Moon Jae-in) in the South based on a firm commitment to decommission his nuclear weapons.

    It is no coincidence that the meeting between the two leaders and Kim’s dramatic reversal in policy took place just weeks after Kim met with the Chinese Premier. Clearly, China was the driving force behind Kim’s decision.

    Critics of process think the North is engaged in an elaborate hoax that will amount to nothing, but that is probably not the case. Keep in mind, it is Beijing that is calling the shots not Kim.

    If China wants Kim to abandon his nukes, that’s probably what he will do.

    Of course, Kim would not go along with Beijing’s demands if he thought he might be putting his country at risk of a preemptive attack by the United States. Nor would he give up his nukes if he thought he was going to wind up like Mummar Gaddafi who was savagely skewered after he succumbed to US demands to surrender his WMD.

    So how did China manage to convince Kim that he had nothing to worry about?

    This question has not yet been fully answered, but we have to assume that China (and perhaps Russia) provided assurances to Kim that his country would be defended if attacked by the United States. Such guarantees would not be unprecedented, in fact, in 2017 Beijing stated clearly that no unprovoked attack by the US on the DPRK would go unanswered. Here’s part of the statement which appeared in Chinese state media:

      “China should make it clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral,” (but) “If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so.”

      “China opposes both nuclear proliferation and war in the Korean Peninsula. It will not encourage any side to stir up military conflict, and will firmly resist any side which wants to change the status quo of the areas where China’s interests are concerned.”

    Beijing must have allayed Kim’s fears or he never would have agreed to denuclearize. But now that he feels protected, Kim appears to be eager to reconcile with his new friends in the South. Here’s what he said on Friday:

      “I look forward to making the most of this opportunity so that we have the chance to heal the wounds between the North and the South…. I came here to put an end to the history of confrontation as well as to work shoulder to shoulder with you to tackle the obstacles between us. I came with the confidence that a brighter future awaits us.”

    Kim is serious. He wants to restart the peace process and restore economic ties with the South. He formalized his commitment by signing a document that called for “the prohibition of the use of force in any form against each other”, “an end to the war” and”complete denuclearization.”

    Also, both leaders are committed to the gradual economic integration of the North and South via vital infrastructure projects that will strengthen popular support for the (eventual) reunification of the country. The importance of this joint commitment cannot be overstated.

    Kim is not simply giving up his nukes to placate China or ease sanctions, he is taking the first step on a path towards “balanced economic growth and shared prosperity”.

    Item 6 in the Panmunjeom Declaration”, which Kim Jong-un and South Korean President Moon Jae-in signed, lays it out in black and white:

      “South and North Korea agreed to actively implement the projects previously agreed in the 2007 October 4 Declaration, in order to promote balanced economic growth and co-prosperity of the nation. As a first step, the two sides agreed to adopt practical steps towards the connection and modernization of the railways and roads on the eastern transportation corridor as well as between Seoul and Sinuiju for their utilization.”

    The clause articulates the same vision for the future as an earlier integration plan that was drafted at the the Eastern Economic Forum (EEF) in Vladivostok on September 6-7, 2017. The meetings– which included North and South Korea, Japan, Russia and China– focused on drawing neighboring states into a common economic space with lowered trade barriers to promote development and prosperity.

    The strategy has been dubbed the Putin Plan and it is designed in a way that it can be easily linked to the Eurasian Union project and China’s strategic “Silk Road Economic Belt” project. The ultimate objective is to create a free-trade zone (“Greater Europe”) that extends from Lisbon to Vladivostok.

    The plan is explained in greater detail in Gavan McCormick’s excellent article at The Asia-Pacific Journal titled “North Korea and a Rules-Based Order for the Indo-Pacific, East Asia, and the World”. The Putin Plan anticipates multiple Siberian oil and gas pipelines criss-crossing the two Koreas to railways and ports that are linked to Japan, China, the Middle East, South Asia, and Europe. Here’s an excerpt from the article:

      “South Korea’s President Moon projected his understanding of this within the frame of what he called “Northeast Asia-plus,” which involved construction of “nine bridges of cooperation” (gas, railroads, ports, electricity, a northern sea route, shipbuilding, jobs, agriculture, and fisheries), embedding the Korean peninsula in the frame of the Russian and Chinese-led BRICS, the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and Shanghai Cooperation Organiziation (SCO) organizations, extending and consolidating those vast, China- and Russia-centred geo-political and economic groupings.
      Though billed as “economic,” and having no explicit “security” element, the Vladivostok conference was nevertheless one that would go a long way towards meeting North Korea’s security concerns and making redundant its nuclear and missile programs. …Unstated, but plainly crucial, North Korea would accept the security guarantee of the five (Japan included), refrain from any further nuclear or missile testing, shelve (“freeze”) its existing programs and gain its longed for “normalization” in the form of incorporation in regional groupings, the lifting of sanctions and normalized relations with its neighbor states, without surrender….
      ….Vladivostok might mark a first step towards a comprehensive, long overdue, post-Cold War re-think of regional relationships….” (“North Korea and a Rules-Based Order for the Indo-Pacific, East Asia, and the World”, Gavan McCormick, The Asia-Pacific Journal)

    In my opinion, Kim Jong-un is prepared to liquidate his nuclear weapons stockpile in order to join this massive regional development project that will draw the continents closer together, create new centers of power and prosperity, undermine Washington’s self-aggrandizing “pivot to Asia” strategy, and strengthen a rules-based multi-polar world order that protects the sovereignty and rights of all its members. Thus, “denuclearization” conceals a tectonic shift in the global power structure.

    Bravo, for that.

    [Y: A further few observations.

    For those that say Trump pressured China to get North Korea to give up the nukes, it was clear to China that that Washington would continue its China-targetted trade war regardless of the outcome. This view has been justified. China loses nothing by co-operating with Washington where this benefits its own interests.

    Outside of that it is very unlikely China will be pressured to accede to any further demands geopolitically or in trade without guaranteed reimbursement. Given Washington’s known duplicity to change tack when it dis not benefit the Deep State any deals with Washington mean exactly squat – as the EU are finding out the hard way. China therefore loses nothing either way.

    I have also previously posted on OBOR (One Belt One Road) that Japan has joined in January at a joint conference of China-Russia-Japan-South Korea. Japan was key to North Korea immediately being asked by China to give its nukes. As you can see from the timeline this move by NK is no coincidence.

    This trade bloc will – for the first time – bring together North Korea, South Korea, Japan, Russia and China with contributing trade from Malaysia Thailand, Vietnam and Phillipines. And there is nothing -short of a unilateral war in the Pacific – that Washington can do about it.

    Y]

    [1] http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/trump-did-not-convince-kim-to-ditch-his-nukes-china-did/

    743 roadmaster
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    ………if so then this will be the ultimate Trump campaign promise fulfillment,………drain the swamp. It will take down a big core of the deep state.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    The latest on this is a lot worse: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-11/brennan-strzok-and-kerry-allegedly-set-espionage-traps-trump-team-hunt-fbi-mole

    The deep state spies put into the Trump campaign were setting up entrapment operations. It is very likely these operations, or similar operations are being continued even after President Trump became president.

    This could be viewed as treason.

    The good news is this taints any accusations of wrong doing against the Trump Administration, because the members of the Trump Administration can point to this and claim attempted entrapment.

    For example, if one of the spies turns out to be the lawyer President Trump checked with on firing Comey, whom said it was legal, then the whole “obstruction of justice” claims on Comey’s firing claims apart because it was entrapment against the President no matter how the incident is viewed.

    On a side note, Mueller and others are not targeting Erik Prince, whom owns the bodyguard service that protects President Trump, because President Trump is intelligent enough not to fully trust the Secret Service with his life.

    743 roadmaster
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/about-that-fbi-source-1525992611

    The Department of Justice lost its latest battle with Congress Thursday when it agreed to brief House Intelligence Committee members about a top-secret intelligence source that was part of the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign. Even without official confirmation of that source’s name, the news so far holds some stunning implications.

    ———–This has been an interesting topic today. Have seen comments from I knew it, Explains a hell of a lot, to some speculation the FBI had people in every GOP running for president so no matter it was going to get the same treatment Trump is getting.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/


    Anonymous

    https://www.rt.com/usa/426411-iranians-liars-nra-north/

    At every turn I see stooges put into place who voice their support of furthering wars of aggression. S~~~, just this morning I put on ABC “News” and got to hear them tell me how Israel was “responding” to attacks from Iran within Syria (code for launching missiles into other countries unprovoked), when the facts are Israel/U.S. have ALWAYS been the aggressor, especially of late. It is not Syria and Iran who have been violating airspace, launching missiles, backing Terrorists, and setting up military bases in other people’s countries… Considering the fact that Iranians have been killed in these unprovoked attacks it is only by incredible restraint that Iran/Russia has not retaliated more aggressively.

    The liars are the same old group over and over again, Israel and U.S. Neocons. I spoke of my concerns about North becoming head of the NRA recently here, I did not however see my concerns being validated as quickly as they have as we now have a felon who lied to Congress telling us who the liars are and turning the face of the NRA into pro-never ending wars of agression propaganda.

    I am going to have to agree with Assad on this one too, why even bother talking to Trump, he clearly is not running the show.

    https://www.rt.com/news/426342-trump-assad-deep-state-syria/

    My thread about his appointment-

    Oliver North President of the NRA???

    This turd wreaks on so many levels, almost feels scripted.

    #803962

    Anonymous

    The only thing more valuable than a pussy is a streached out ruined by offspring vagina.
    Mummy pass trumps pussy pass.

    #803927
    Branched off
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    Provided you have a protected characteristic -race, gender, disability … you can trump all forms of fairness and effectiveness.

    Politeness and kindness make sense. Political correctness defies nature. Its hubris. Those who defy the gods always make fools of themselves in the end.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    Autolite
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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bains-turban-aiport-1.4656637

    It seems that we’ve hit a new low. I’m a little surprised that the American NTSA took this kinda s~~~. I just assumed that security was their top priority…

    #803653
    MACHO
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    This one didn’t help your case either!

    @Can’t Stump Trump Thanks for that response, I’m glad that you’re taking time out of your day to give me something to think about. It’s probably not right to lay all of women’s actions today at the feet of Marxism. But you can’t tell me that geniuses like Camille Paglia and Ayne Rand aren’t as smart as any other male intelectuals. It’s just absurd. You have to at the very least read some of their work before you pigeonhole them with the rest. Maybe it isn’t best for society that they are in those positions, but to deny their intelligence without reading any of the work that they did is foolish. Also, I’ll go check out all of those links and re-think my arguments. I’ll start another thread if I end up fundamentally disagreeing. Thanks again dude, I needed someone to battle my ideas with

    You must own a better Crystal ball than I
    #803652
    MACHO
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    This statement would probably upset the majority since women are very emotional.

    @can’t-stump-trump Dude, how do you explain women outperforming men with high ACT and SAT scores and outperforming men in universities? Women have the capability of being just as rational as men, but it is not as common

    You must own a better Crystal ball than I

    I see no use in society for anyone whom experiences this level of idiocy.

    They really need to open Insane Asylums again.

    The asylums would not allow such idiocy within their walls. Such idiocy is contagious, especially for those whom are already mentally unwell.

    Calling that critter an idiot, is an insult to a much higher mental state than it could ever achieve.

    I know, but we are running out of synonyms.

    They passed going full retard and being a potato a year and a half ago and they kept on running down the idiocy hole.

    There is even a recent article about this level of idiocy: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/05/tucker-carlson-democratic-party-has-doubled-down-on-every-single-behavior-that-got-trump-elected-video/

    #803528

    Anonymous

    Well, at least he admits he was wrong. He had a flawed argument.

    Can’t Stump Trump, explained why it was flawed. Thought this was headed in a good direction…

    Maximus Aurelius
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    On a different tact……
    I want to share some appreciation for the Men on here that have contributed to pointedly, accurately and exhaustively.
    Like ‘Stump Trump’, Ranger, Nerdtunnel and others.

    That took their time to post their knowledge and experience about the truth of what MGTOW is.
    I found it affirming to hear just Why so Many of us are MGTOW, or should be!
    ‘Can’t Stump Trump’, did a great job of articulating the truths of MGTOW, and the differences about Marxism, Feminism, Men vs women’s intelligence and how why they are so different and evaluated adversely. The ingenuity of Men and the plagiaristic nature of women’s intelligence. Then on to truths about the religious and Biblical place women should hold…
    Absolutely Brilliant!

    Meditating on the Wisdom & Truths of Man, Isn't just a Philosophy, but a Calling......Be willing to be Called a Man!
    #803305
    743 roadmaster
    743 roadmaster
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    sign

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/09/pro-trump-maryland-billboard-warns-liberals-to-get-your-guns-if-impeachment-occurs.html

    Pro-Trump Maryland billboard warns liberals to ‘get your guns’ if impeachment occurs

    ——-LOL! Brilliant!

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

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